tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730381796968566097.post3736489236380167702..comments2024-03-26T00:16:48.402-07:00Comments on Our Founding Truth: New release from Dreisbach and HallOur Founding Truthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01072993191810565535noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730381796968566097.post-9628978851727143512014-03-12T17:49:27.512-07:002014-03-12T17:49:27.512-07:00I read both those links you guys provided and the ...I read both those links you guys provided and the one by Mitch Stokes doesn't give any quotes from Newton. Jon's link does. <br />Here's the whole thing:<br /><br /><i>a system of the Christian religion, showing the relation of the ffather & Son, & how they are to be worshipped in a general Assembly of the Church & of the whole creation. The ffather the supreme King upon Our Founding Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01072993191810565535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730381796968566097.post-56362470874356421312014-03-12T14:34:33.738-07:002014-03-12T14:34:33.738-07:00I thought Newton's issue with the Trinity was ...I thought Newton's issue with the Trinity was with Erasmus because he thought 1 John 4 wasn't initially in the text. If that's the case, Newton was wrong about Erasmus and the text in general, given Erasmus found plenty of manuscripts that had the texts containing Christ's Divinty and same essence of the Father, as well as the rest of Scripture: Rom 9, Col 1,2, John 8:58, etc.<br Our Founding Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01072993191810565535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730381796968566097.post-51667322344044992082014-03-12T14:30:34.302-07:002014-03-12T14:30:34.302-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Our Founding Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01072993191810565535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730381796968566097.post-3144231714605726222014-03-12T06:18:02.976-07:002014-03-12T06:18:02.976-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jonathan Rowehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730381796968566097.post-58404450669296434572014-03-12T06:17:57.864-07:002014-03-12T06:17:57.864-07:00http://branemrys.blogspot.com/2006/03/newton-again...http://branemrys.blogspot.com/2006/03/newton-against-trinity.htmlJonathan Rowehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730381796968566097.post-28007816566492926522014-03-11T22:09:55.066-07:002014-03-11T22:09:55.066-07:00Have you read Mitch Stokes' treatment of Newto...Have you read Mitch Stokes' treatment of Newton's position on the Trinity? He claims:<br /><br /><i>We know, however, that Newton believed in the divinity of Christ and the Holy Spirit; he also believed that Jesus was the Messiah and atoned for our sins with his death on the cross. Newton even believed, contrary to Arianism (of which he is usually accused), in the eternality of the Son.Bill Fortenberryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14205053444988720146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730381796968566097.post-26287855387774390362014-03-11T10:20:35.912-07:002014-03-11T10:20:35.912-07:00I'm not so sure Frazer is a theistic rationali...I'm not so sure Frazer is a theistic rationalist. He claims to be a Calvinist and teaches at a Calvinist college, under the Calvinist John MacArthur. My issue with Frazer is lumping Christians with unitarians or heterodox by the use of classical verbiage. Our Founding Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01072993191810565535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730381796968566097.post-39526606107360034802014-03-11T08:43:57.127-07:002014-03-11T08:43:57.127-07:00"I've already shown that, by his own stan... "I've already shown that, by his own standards, he is himself a theistic rationalist and therefore not a Christian."<br /><br />I don't know why you keep saying this; just repeating something doesn't make it so.<br /><br />Frazer defines late 18th Century Christianity according to a minimum of ten non-negotiable points, each of which HE believes, YOU believe, OFT believes Jonathan Rowehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730381796968566097.post-81569758257675080772014-03-11T04:56:41.083-07:002014-03-11T04:56:41.083-07:00Frazer keeps digging himself deeper into a hole. ...Frazer keeps digging himself deeper into a hole. I've already shown that, by his own standards, he is himself a theistic rationalist and therefore not a Christian. <br /><br />You presented several excellent quotations from Morris, but let me add a few more that set him apart from Frazer's claims. In recounting a conversation about the science of life, Morris wrote:<br /><br />“My Bill Fortenberryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14205053444988720146noreply@blogger.com