tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730381796968566097.post2599740521855839563..comments2024-03-26T00:16:48.402-07:00Comments on Our Founding Truth: John Adams and Ben Franklin Write The Law of Nature is The God of the BibleOur Founding Truthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01072993191810565535noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730381796968566097.post-8578120867479420432011-10-03T10:10:20.148-07:002011-10-03T10:10:20.148-07:00Tom,
You are claiming Mason believed man's ri...Tom,<br /><br />You are claiming Mason believed man's right reason is superior to the Bible(the other power). However, Mason did not believe that. How do you explain that apart from my conclusion?Our Founding Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01072993191810565535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730381796968566097.post-33369481201537964962011-10-02T00:43:19.532-07:002011-10-02T00:43:19.532-07:00Is not the Bible a different power than man's ...Is not the Bible a different power than man's reason?<br /><br />---Yes. This is the difference between "general" revelation [natural law] and "special revelation [scripture].Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730381796968566097.post-64103656344984784172011-09-30T10:51:07.633-07:002011-09-30T10:51:07.633-07:00Tom,
Why did Hooker and Blackstone write Revelati...Tom,<br /><br />Why did Hooker and Blackstone write Revelation was part of the Laws of Nature? Moreover, if you are correct, Mason's quote, "superceded by no other power on earth or beyond" would include the Bible right? Is not the Bible a different power than man's reason?<br /><br />Did Calvinist Sam Adams understand the laws of the Creator were man's reason only or did Our Founding Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01072993191810565535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730381796968566097.post-9813064951400257672011-09-30T00:32:29.356-07:002011-09-30T00:32:29.356-07:00You still get it wrong. The Laws of nature are es...You still get it wrong. The Laws of nature are established by the creator, but are not synonymous with revelation. Every quote you just posted is consistent with that understanding. You just refuse to get it.Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730381796968566097.post-61722434434626593422011-09-26T12:21:52.235-07:002011-09-26T12:21:52.235-07:00Tom,
Moreover, you didn't source your quote, ...Tom,<br /><br />Moreover, you didn't source your quote, and with no context. What degree is Grotius referring to? Truth? Only a degree? <br /><br />Rest assured you could find many of his quotes referring to the laws of nature that included revelation. Because it is derived from the same source, the framers sometimes included both in the appellation:<br /><br />"The laws of nature are Our Founding Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01072993191810565535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730381796968566097.post-37174782388653451812011-09-26T09:04:13.320-07:002011-09-26T09:04:13.320-07:00Tom,
You may understand Natural Law, but you do n...Tom,<br /><br />You may understand Natural Law, but you do not understand what the Founding Fathers entailed in the appellation--The Laws of Nature.<br /><br />In "The Laws of Nature" many times the framers included revelation. You keep thinking "it only refers to man's reason."Our Founding Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01072993191810565535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730381796968566097.post-22418434536472551592011-09-23T12:32:36.690-07:002011-09-23T12:32:36.690-07:00After all this time, you still don't get natur...After all this time, you still don't get natural law.<br /><br />"What we have been saying would have a degree of validity even if we should concede that which cannot be conceded without the utmost wickedness, that there is no God."<br />---GrotiusTom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730381796968566097.post-87146062322493505372011-09-19T10:49:00.774-07:002011-09-19T10:49:00.774-07:00Grotius believed sola scriptura--not sure about Su...Grotius believed sola scriptura--not sure about Suarez. Over and over the framers link revelation with reason in the term "law of nature." These quotes are on this blog. Why would they do that?<br /><br />My point is, although mentioned in his diary, from the Colonist's point of view, the law of nature includes the Christian religion or Jesus Christ:<br /><br />"In whom [Jesus Our Founding Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01072993191810565535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730381796968566097.post-12614879400138960772011-09-18T13:30:53.519-07:002011-09-18T13:30:53.519-07:00One great advantage of the Christian religion is t...<i>One great advantage of the Christian religion is that it brings the great principle of the law of nature and nations...<br />--Adams Diary, August 24, 1796.</i><br /><br />This means "natural law." In fact, the great theorists Suarez and Hugo Grotius did much of their work on "natural law" as "the law of nations." This is what Adams is referring to, since Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.com